Victimization Without Being Enslaved

“Ok, im white but i dont hate black people, i LOVE black people. Anyway, is it alright for me to feel like a victim, even though i haven’t been enslaved, part of my family are Jewish.” – cantthinkofname
Thanks for the feedback cantthinkofname,
But before I answer your question, I have a few questions for you. Why would it be okay for Jewish people to feel like victims when it is the black community that is the one currently being victimized by racial prejudices? Are feelings of Jewish victimization still valid because of what happened in another country over a half century ago? What reason do people of Jewish heritage have to continue to feel like victims? Are Nazis still somehow subjecting the Jewish people to unfair treatment? Do you feel enslavement is the only prerequisite for someone being a victim? Should a woman who has been raped feel like a victim even though she has never been enslaved? Should the family of a man murdered feel like victims even though none of the family members has ever been enslaved?
When was the last time you ever heard of a Jewish teenager being clubbed to death by seven boot camp guards? When was the last time you heard of a Jewish teenage girl being punched in the face by a police officer for breaking curfew? When was the last time you heard of a seventeen year old Jewish male getting a ten year prison sentence and convicted of being a pedophile for engaging in consensual sex with a fifteen year old girl? When was the last time we saw an unarmed Jewish man shot dozens of times over for walking down a street with a bag of groceries and pulling out his wallet to identify himself? When was the last time we saw a Jewish man go to jail and had police officers ram a broken broom handle up his ass? When was the last time an American institution such as the American Medical Association admitted that they had a history of keeping Jewish individuals from becoming doctors? I think the answer is never. So why would someone of Jewish ancestry feel like a victim today?
How many black organizations have the political clout of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), an organization whose primary concern is the interest of Israel and doesn’t even come close to having the welfare of the American people at heart? This non-American Jewish organization has a great deal of influence in the happenings of the American federal government. The Jewish community has people, programs, and organizations devoted to assuring that the Jewish state, as well as the Jewish community, flourishes and does well and has its central interest protected. It is nothing for any presidential candidate, even a black one, to announce his or her allegiance to the Jewish community and the people of Israel.
However, the black politician is careful not to appear too black for fear of appearing too sensitive to the issues that the black community faces. It is better for the black politician to appear ignorant of the conditions of the black community and tell black people to get black men to take more responsibility for the results in the black community born out of racial prejudices to keep black people’s ability to obtain education, employment, housing, and etcetera, severely limited rather than acknowledge the racial preferences that continue to hold black people at a disadvantage.
It is nothing to hear someone say that people in the black community need to pick themselves up by our individual boot straps. It is nothing to hear someone say that no one owes people in the black community anything. Black people need to learn to do for themselves. The black community will be stronger if somehow black people learn to create their individual jobs and individual educational opportunities. Black people are encouraged to separate themselves from the black community and embrace the racially generic dominant culture that is somehow overwhelmingly represented by white values. This is what we tell our own citizens.
But what politician is willing to go to the podium and tell Israel to take more responsibility for its own endeavors? What politician is willing to tell these non American citizens that we don’t owe you a god damn thing? The politicians of this country are willing to go on record and tell people half way around the world that the people of America will support you and America will protect you and will use a variety of euphemisms to express American devotion and affiliation and a sense of community while at the same time we tell our black brothers and sisters America owes you nothing. Why would anybody with Jewish ancestry feel like a victim in this environment?
To answer your question, I don’t think it is right for anybody to claim that they are a victim based solely on what happened to their ancestors or elders or anyone else. However, if the social environment that led to the subjugation of a people in the past is still practiced today, it should not be too difficult to understand that the same classification of people who were victimized in the past are the same classification being victimized today.
Despite any professions of love for anybody in the black community, some people have a tendency to think racial discrimination only comes in the form of institutionalized enslavement that may have happened a long time ago. Such overhanded and blatant racial prejudices practiced by the dominant community in the past against black people are all over now. However, now that we can rely on racial propaganda to easily explain away manifestations of blatant racism as the lack of personal responsibility in the black community, it is so much easier to tolerate racial intolerance no matter how much we may claim to love black people. We tell ourselves that the black people we love so much have never been enslaved so they can never make a valid claim to being victims of racial prejudice and make our own contribution to the perpetual state of racial disparity.


Absofreakinlutely correct! Great post. I only wish that the people who say these freaking stupid things would come back and learn something, then we won’t be continually subjected to this idiocy.
Thanks
Thanks for the feedback theblacksentinel,
I have to confess to some frustration with all the small minded people who think that the only claim the black community has is with being the descendants of our enslaved ancestors who were never properly compensated for their contribution to America’s development. People are quick to holler something like, “I’m Jewish and I love black people so should I be a victim?” The very question demonstrates their own retarded thinking.
Peace
Excellent post,
Great response to the question posed! The difference in the way Black and Jewish communities are treated an America, proves your words are the undisputed truth.
Thanks for the feedback truth,
Don’t you wish people would take an honestly look at the disparity before opening their mouths to ask such dumb questions?
Peace
thank god you called this idiot on their bullshit! god i think this kind of reasoning stinks, it does not bear comparison. jewish people have suffered, but they also celebrate passover, the anniversary of their emancipation from egypt how many millenia ago, but then they say black people are not entitled to have the same grievances or have any kind of thing comparible to passover even though it was only in the 19th century we regained our freedom!
stinks!
Thanks for the feedback lifeisannoying,
This kind of reasoning is the reason the black community is in the condition it is in now. Most people want to apply the most simplistic of logic to the situation. Oprah is rich so there couldn’t be any racial prejudices still lingering. Barack Obama is a presidential candidate so racism is over. My grandfather couldn’t get a job back in the depression so why do black people think they should complain when they can’t find a job?
Peace
brotherpeacemaker,
simple logic is often the best logic. You can make things overly complex and twist it to fit how you want, which is what you are doing in the three examples you just used as “simple logic”. Tell the WHOLE story. Oprah is rich because she worked hard and devoted herself to her work… has nothing racial involved either way. Barrack is a presidential candidate… this one is interesting in that there are a TON of white supporters out there… probably just as many as blacks. The biggest critic of him so far is the esteemed Jesse Jackson. Him and Al Sharpton have the most to lose from him being elected as he WOULD take away 99.9% of whatever platform they THINK they have to nag on about. Him being elected would put a TON of issues to rest concerning racism (note, that i do NOT say all, because i DO realize there are ignorant people that will NEVER see beyond the color of someones skin) because white people, spanish people, asians, blacks would ALL have to vote for him… sorry to say but non hispanic whites are still the majority of the country, so when he does win, youll know we helped! The depression arguement is tired, and i realize that some people dont hire because of race, but that goes BOTH ways. You absolutely CANNOT sit there and say that even 10 percent of unemployed or homeless blacks are in that state due to the fact that they were unable to find work because of racism. (dont even TRY, because youll have no proof that i cant kill with “so, is that the only company they applied for? Hell, if their situation is so poor, where was wal mart or mcdonalds or another major equal opportunity corporation. Where was the military [which is a good thing to do, very equal opportunity... i think i would know, ive been in for a while now]) With the illegal immigration thing going on i think you would agree its hard for ANY American to find jobs… those who are persistant come out on top, thats how it is. Oh, and it IS very annoying to even HEAR someone bring up the topic of the whole lack of compensation for the slavery thing… im not saying you are putting that out there as an arguement, but just as a chance to address it… If anyone thinks that blacks were put into a terrible situation, think about how the Native Americans felt when we came in, decieved them, diseased them, killed them, displaced them, and then gave them a few acres here or there, then labeled them as no good drunks that arent good for anything except running casino’s… talk about lack of compensation. Im not even a native american, but i think their plight goes just as deep, if not deeper than that of the black community.
Thanks for the feedback anonymous,
Simple logic is always the best. Oprah is not rich because she worked hard. Oprah is rich because she panders to white people. That’s the WHOLE story. Barack Obama is a presidential candidate because he panders to white people. That’s the WHOLE story. If Mr. Obama ever did anything to show a strong affiliation with the black community white people would kick him to the curb and John McCain would be a shoe in for the presidency. Why else would so many black activist be upset with him. It’s not a coincidence, it is simple logic.
You want to say that racism isn’t responsible black people’s plight. That dog don’t hunt on this blog. White people have denied black people educational opportunities just like the deny black people employment opportunities. That’s simple logic. Of course you have proof to refute anything black people say. White people bring black people to this country in chains, put black to work for decades without a dime towards compensation, free black people and then deny black people equal status as humans, black people have to sue in court for the most basic rights of humanity, white governors stand in the doorway of schools to deny black children education, black people have to sue corporations to get black people in the door, but you have proof that there’s no such thing as racism!
Too bad all those black people had to spend so much time in everything from the underground railroad to the supreme court. Lord knows there’s proof all around that there’s no such thing as racism. The proof that there’s no racism hangs plentifully in trees like nooses.
Peace
Anonymous,
Are these illegal aliens taking jobs that ALL Americans supposedly want? From what I see most of the jobs they are doing are in meat packing plants and picking vegetables. For goodness sake I haven’t seen many blacks, whites or others dieing to get into those two employment opportunities. Not only because they don’t give a livable wage, but they try and work you to death for that pittance.
Also, if you are going to say that since Oprah and Obama worked so hard to get where they are means that racism is pretty much dead except for all those stupid people who would rather hire a white man with a felony record over a black man with 4 year college degree. Would you also agree that Bill Gates and Donald Trump worked hard to get all that money in their bank accounts trumps any white person out there saying that they aren’t making ends meet or that immigrants are somehow taking all the jobs.
And for every time you can pull some crap out about all the working class people who are losing their houses. I can show proof that times are great and money flows like the Mississippi river. This just shows how idiotic your argument is. Just because you can name two black people who have done extremely well, you can name plenty of black people that have done well, doesn’t negate the fact that racism is alive and kicking. Kicking blacks asses all over this country.
Why is it that whenever a person wants to bring up slavery compensation as a topic they just HAVE to compare it to some other races terrible fate at the hands of the white race? Did you or any other white person compare the Japanese to the African enslavement before they were handed over a bunch of cash from the internment fiasco? Did you or any other white person compare the holocaust to the Native Americans or the African enslavement before you said nothing to the billions of dollars we give them each year to make sure they do well?
I think not. It is only when blacks are discussed do the jackasses come out the woodwork with a bunch of comparisons that don’t even compare. How long were the Native Americans enslaved again, that’s right they WERE NEVER ENSLAVED!! I am sure that the Africans who were ripped from their homes and dragged here in chains losing ALL of their family, friends and anything else they knew, would be damn happy just to lose their land and be able to at least move elsewhere away from the white damn perpetrators and still be free.
So don’t you dare compare what my ancestors had to go through at the hands of your sick twisted sadistic ancestors. Because you have no idea nor will you ever (if your lucky). So I suggest that you just sit back with your white privilege the one that makes you think that you have some gall to be able to tell blacks if there is or isn’t racism and shut the hell up.
Thanks. And BrotherP sorry about the anger, but that loser really peeved me off.