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		<title>By: No Justice for Sean Bell &#171; The Blog and the Bullet</title>
		<link>http://brotherpeacemaker.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/no-justice-for-sean-bell/#comment-3177</link>
		<dc:creator>No Justice for Sean Bell &#171; The Blog and the Bullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Jack Stephens on April 28, 2008  Brotherpaecemaker blogs about the acquittal of the homicidal cops from New York: People in the black community need to rethink our [...]</description>
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		<title>By: brotherpeacemaker</title>
		<link>http://brotherpeacemaker.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/no-justice-for-sean-bell/#comment-3176</link>
		<dc:creator>brotherpeacemaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The black community knew for years that black people were susceptible for a beat down from a cop.  Black people would show up at the station in handcuffs and bleeding profusely from their month or from a head wound.  They fell was the common excuse.  Rodney King was only the first time it occurred and somebody had proof.  Rodney King didn&#039;t surprise me.  What surprised me was the fact that the courts actually made a half assed attempt at justice for the police brutality caught on film.  That was then.  Now, even when a video camera catches the brutality of law enforcement at work, the American society has become so accustomed to seeing police abusing and killing black people it&#039;s no longer enough just to see it.  Courts and juries now acquit badge wearing murderers because their victims are black.  What surprises me now is the fact that this does not register to the majority of black people and we continue to try and integrate.

Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The black community knew for years that black people were susceptible for a beat down from a cop.  Black people would show up at the station in handcuffs and bleeding profusely from their month or from a head wound.  They fell was the common excuse.  Rodney King was only the first time it occurred and somebody had proof.  Rodney King didn&#8217;t surprise me.  What surprised me was the fact that the courts actually made a half assed attempt at justice for the police brutality caught on film.  That was then.  Now, even when a video camera catches the brutality of law enforcement at work, the American society has become so accustomed to seeing police abusing and killing black people it&#8217;s no longer enough just to see it.  Courts and juries now acquit badge wearing murderers because their victims are black.  What surprises me now is the fact that this does not register to the majority of black people and we continue to try and integrate.</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: Deirdre Saoirse Moen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deirdre Saoirse Moen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After Rodney King, I&#039;m not surprised. With Rodney King, I was surprised.

I suppose you could call that growth in my perspective, though it&#039;s an unfortunate way to get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After Rodney King, I&#8217;m not surprised. With Rodney King, I was surprised.</p>
<p>I suppose you could call that growth in my perspective, though it&#8217;s an unfortunate way to get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Micah Pyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micah Pyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brotherpeacemaker,

Excellent essay.  You have hit on two particular things happening in America right now.  (1) Ever-expanding &quot;police state&quot; mentality; and (2) ever-expanding gulf between Whites in power, and Blacks from all walks of life.  The two connected but they are not the same thing.  However, they come from the same place: FEAR.  There&#039;s a whole lot of scared White people in America right now, and a disproportionate number of them are in positions of power, and among those powerful ones, too many are police, prosecutors, judges, jail wardens and jail guards.

I would even suggest that fear is the primary motivator for these Whites gaining power -- fear that if they don&#039;t and wield that power, they will succumb to those whom they fear.  

What else can explain each of the horrendous murders you cite in your essay?  Fear is at the bottom of all antisocial behavior -- fear, and usually some history of abuse as a child.  The abuse can be verbal/emotional cruelty, physical abuse, or some combination of those things.  Abuse creates a desire to lash out in revenge.  It also screws with the psyche -- and the result is that the revenge typically is taken out on a scapegoat.  Thus Hitler chased Jews to their death under the authority of the Third Reich.  David Duke hates Black folks and seeks political power to abuse them through the long arm of the government.  And so on.

You are correct that they cannot properly say &quot;I feared for my life&quot; while wielding radically disproportionate power and force.  It is unethical and inhumane for them to try to excuse or forgive themselves on those counts.

Frederick Douglass knew the score.  He always argued for agitation and stubborn insistence on equality.  One of his most famous statements is that power never yields anything without a struggle.

White America is not going to simply come to its senses and yield power and access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brotherpeacemaker,</p>
<p>Excellent essay.  You have hit on two particular things happening in America right now.  (1) Ever-expanding &#8220;police state&#8221; mentality; and (2) ever-expanding gulf between Whites in power, and Blacks from all walks of life.  The two connected but they are not the same thing.  However, they come from the same place: FEAR.  There&#8217;s a whole lot of scared White people in America right now, and a disproportionate number of them are in positions of power, and among those powerful ones, too many are police, prosecutors, judges, jail wardens and jail guards.</p>
<p>I would even suggest that fear is the primary motivator for these Whites gaining power &#8212; fear that if they don&#8217;t and wield that power, they will succumb to those whom they fear.  </p>
<p>What else can explain each of the horrendous murders you cite in your essay?  Fear is at the bottom of all antisocial behavior &#8212; fear, and usually some history of abuse as a child.  The abuse can be verbal/emotional cruelty, physical abuse, or some combination of those things.  Abuse creates a desire to lash out in revenge.  It also screws with the psyche &#8212; and the result is that the revenge typically is taken out on a scapegoat.  Thus Hitler chased Jews to their death under the authority of the Third Reich.  David Duke hates Black folks and seeks political power to abuse them through the long arm of the government.  And so on.</p>
<p>You are correct that they cannot properly say &#8220;I feared for my life&#8221; while wielding radically disproportionate power and force.  It is unethical and inhumane for them to try to excuse or forgive themselves on those counts.</p>
<p>Frederick Douglass knew the score.  He always argued for agitation and stubborn insistence on equality.  One of his most famous statements is that power never yields anything without a struggle.</p>
<p>White America is not going to simply come to its senses and yield power and access.</p>
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		<title>By: brotherpeacemaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>brotherpeacemaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly!  A cop will be severely reprimanded for using harsh language on a white kid.  Knock a white kid off of his skateboard and face an early dishonorable retirement.  If a police officer draws their weapon on a dog they better have a good explanation, and &quot;I feared for my life&quot; is not a good explanation for pumping Fido with lead.  But the standards for the justified murder of black people is so easy a caveman can do it.  And the solution?  Black people need to integrate like John White tried to do.  Robert Davis had successfully integrated and he got the beat down anyway.  Integration is not the solution.  Living amongst these killers and abusers of black people is not the solution.

Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly!  A cop will be severely reprimanded for using harsh language on a white kid.  Knock a white kid off of his skateboard and face an early dishonorable retirement.  If a police officer draws their weapon on a dog they better have a good explanation, and &#8220;I feared for my life&#8221; is not a good explanation for pumping Fido with lead.  But the standards for the justified murder of black people is so easy a caveman can do it.  And the solution?  Black people need to integrate like John White tried to do.  Robert Davis had successfully integrated and he got the beat down anyway.  Integration is not the solution.  Living amongst these killers and abusers of black people is not the solution.</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: theblacksentinel</title>
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		<dc:creator>theblacksentinel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BrotherP,

These are the same type of people who could sit there and see with their own eyes cops beat Rodney King within inches of his life and say that if he had just lay down and submit none of this would have continued.  Shoot a man to death in his back down in New Orleans for cutting cardboard boxes with scissors to make beds for he and his homeless children.

And shoot an unarmed young woman to death and shoot her one year old son because a cop feared for his life.  And since she also had a prior arrest it was OK because we know that black people with any prior arrest history (or not) have no rights, credibility and are always putting fear into police no matter what they are doing or not doing.

And is this really what I would want to integrate into and put my children both of whom are boys at risk to end up at the wrong end of a hail of police bullets or hanging from the baton of an overzealous boot camp officer or their being violated by sodomizing sadistic policemen.  This is absurd.  We need to open our eyes.

People get more time, they actually GET time for killing a dog.  Hence Michael Vick.  Yet kill a black person, and be told &quot;hey you didn&#039;t have a choice.&quot;  He was unarmed, &quot;hey, he&#039;s black that is still dangerous.&quot;  And every time you turn around some silly person will come up with any flimsy excuse for why they (the cops etc.) had no choice but to kill.  Also, that 50 bullets, sodomy by broomstick, choking via baton and shooting one year old black children was somehow rational and totally not excessive.

We now know that blacks are dangerous when holding babies, driving cars, pulling out wallets, cutting cardboard boxes, asking for help, being a young man unable to run, going home from bachelor parties, defending your family and home, walking home with groceries, having a hair brush, holding candy bars and simply having black skin.

Like I said we had better wake up before it is too late.  They can and will justify any type of dominant culture on black person murder.  Soon they will want to implement the Bill Bennett plan for crime reduction of aborting all babies.  This is the man who was the former United Secretary of Education.  We have the man who was over educating our children saying that so why we should believe that we stand any chance in the dominant society?

Great post thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrotherP,</p>
<p>These are the same type of people who could sit there and see with their own eyes cops beat Rodney King within inches of his life and say that if he had just lay down and submit none of this would have continued.  Shoot a man to death in his back down in New Orleans for cutting cardboard boxes with scissors to make beds for he and his homeless children.</p>
<p>And shoot an unarmed young woman to death and shoot her one year old son because a cop feared for his life.  And since she also had a prior arrest it was OK because we know that black people with any prior arrest history (or not) have no rights, credibility and are always putting fear into police no matter what they are doing or not doing.</p>
<p>And is this really what I would want to integrate into and put my children both of whom are boys at risk to end up at the wrong end of a hail of police bullets or hanging from the baton of an overzealous boot camp officer or their being violated by sodomizing sadistic policemen.  This is absurd.  We need to open our eyes.</p>
<p>People get more time, they actually GET time for killing a dog.  Hence Michael Vick.  Yet kill a black person, and be told &#8220;hey you didn&#8217;t have a choice.&#8221;  He was unarmed, &#8220;hey, he&#8217;s black that is still dangerous.&#8221;  And every time you turn around some silly person will come up with any flimsy excuse for why they (the cops etc.) had no choice but to kill.  Also, that 50 bullets, sodomy by broomstick, choking via baton and shooting one year old black children was somehow rational and totally not excessive.</p>
<p>We now know that blacks are dangerous when holding babies, driving cars, pulling out wallets, cutting cardboard boxes, asking for help, being a young man unable to run, going home from bachelor parties, defending your family and home, walking home with groceries, having a hair brush, holding candy bars and simply having black skin.</p>
<p>Like I said we had better wake up before it is too late.  They can and will justify any type of dominant culture on black person murder.  Soon they will want to implement the Bill Bennett plan for crime reduction of aborting all babies.  This is the man who was the former United Secretary of Education.  We have the man who was over educating our children saying that so why we should believe that we stand any chance in the dominant society?</p>
<p>Great post thanks!</p>
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