Ghetto Dudes Need Jobs Too

Evon Reid is a twenty two year old University of Toronto honors political science student with obvious African ancestry. The Canadian brother wears his dreads proudly. He recently applied for a cabinet office position as a media analyst with the Ontario government. On July 20th, Mr. Reid received an email from Aileen Siu, a fellow University of Toronto honors graduate who was handling Mr. Reid’s job application. The full email said, “This is the ghetto dude that I spoke to before.” Nothing else. To say that Mr. Reid was stunned is a woeful understatement. The email was obviously sent to Mr. Reid by mistake. It doesn’t take a political analyst to see why Mr. Reid didn’t get much of a follow up to his application. (Click here for the story in the Toronto Star)
Like just about any entity that operates in the public these days, representatives of the Canadian government engaged their best spin doctors in order to minimization the damage to their image. Ms. Siu was an unclassified and low-level government contract employee who just so happened to have been promoted from the janitorial services that day and didn’t quite know how email worked, let alone a sophisticated piece of equipment like a computer keyboard. Ms. Siu had inadvertently hit the wrong key and sent the email to Mr. Reid in reference to no one in particular. In fact, Ms. Siu is so low on the totem pole that she wasn’t even aware that Mr. Reid had already been selected as the most qualified applicant. In fact, Mr. Reid is now Ms. Siu’s direct manager if he wants the job. Protons don’t spin around neutrons as fast as officials in Canada can spin obvious employment discrimination.
As always people point to this incident and use the same words they do in any incident of discrimination or unethical behavior that reaches the light of day. This is an isolated incident that has never happened before in the history of the company, government, non-profit agency, charity, or whatever you may have. People say this when soldiers are busted abusing prisoners, when cops are caught red handed jacking a brother up because he had the audacity to ask about curfews in a flood ravaged city, when black men are killed in a volley of bullets on their way to their wedding ceremony, or when an immigrant of obvious African descent is sodomized with a broom handle inside a prison. However, Mr. Reid has too much dignity and character to jump to any rash conclusion that blatant racism may have played a part in this distasteful affair.
But I don’t. This hits too close to home for me.
How many brothers and sisters with the best educational qualifications and employment experiences or history have been denied employment because of their obvious ethnicity? The answer is far too many. Employers can review a resume and check qualifications and read glowing recommendations from references. For too many people who are gatekeepers to employment, none of that is enough when the candidate is black and wants to keep some semblance of their racial heritage in their appearance.
Yes black people get jobs. But if a black man shows up for an interview in a corporate environment with dreadlocks instead of an acceptable close cropped and neat haircut from the local Supercuts or some other generic hair salon that knows squat about African hair then he’d best forget any chance for employment. Unless it’s something that has to do with some form of entertainment or art with a specific application in mind many dreadlocked brothers don’t get much of an opportunity to prove their worth.
Not a month ago I applied for a job with a company who desperately needed someone to revamp their database application. A key member of the company was leaving who was never formally trained in the development and maintenance of databases was responsible for a good chunk of their information technology. After a couple of telephone interviews about a week apart they asked me if I was able to come for a face to face interview. The next day I packed my car and drove eight hundred miles one way for the occasion. The following morning I was exactly fifteen minutes early for my interview that lasted four hours.
The following Tuesday the recruiter handling the job informed me that the hiring manager at the company I interviewed with had concerns that I may not be able to do the job. I interviewed well and I had good answers for tough question but how do they know that I can do what I say? Forget the fact that I had my resume, my references, sample of applications that I had developed for other clients and employers, transcripts of my education, and anything else you could name at my disposal. The company couldn’t risk hiring me because I was an unknown quantity. They reimbursed me for my expenses and sent me on my merry way. I hope they go out of business.
Maybe it was just a coincidence. But there wasn’t a single minority working in this company. I really would like to know how often white people go for job in person interviews and be told that the employer doesn’t know if they’re qualified for the position or not.
I know what happens to Mr. Reid happens to just about every black person who keeps their blackness just outside what’s considered within acceptable parameters for white people. I know it happens to me. In the past month it has happened twice. I try to console myself by saying if a company doesn’t want to hire me for who I am or what I am chances are good I don’t want to be working for them anyway. But people have a tendency to forget that even “ghetto dudes” need to make a living as well. What happened to Mr. Reid is not an isolated incident or a misunderstanding or a keyboard used in error. It is standard operating procedure for white dominated communities throughout the world. Racism and prejudice is far from dead.

[quote]But if a black man shows up for an interview in a corporate environment with dreadlocks instead of an acceptable close cropped and neat haircut from the local Supercuts or some other generic hair salon that knows squat about African hair then he’d best forget any chance for employment. Unless it’s something that has to do with some form of entertainment or art with a specific application in mind many dreadlocked brothers don’t get much of an opportunity to prove their worth.[/quote]
If the PREVAILING CORPORATE IMAGE is that of a CONSERVATIVE hairstyle, business attire and a certain use of the English language then THIS is what a person attempting TO GET IN should conform to. Once he is ON THE INSIDE, has gained authority through his credibility then CHANGE CAN BE MADE toward certain subjective elements that have little to do with job performance.
IF the position is a CUSTOMER FACING function – you can be sure that dread locked Black men as well as Mohawked White men with rings in their noses ARE NOT GOING TO GET THE JOB.
During the interview you are represented by – your paperwork, your ability to communicate and your physical impression upon the person – all packaged up into one.
YES there are RACISTS who – regardless of what you do are not going to want you in. There are far more companies, however, who value talent and will seek to assemble the best team to complete the mission. With these same companies taking work from “White folks” and sending them to melanated people in India it is hard to make the case that today is like 1950.
Who said anything about today being 1950? It would be helpful if you stick to the issue at hand.
If companies truly valued talent over everything else then would it not be logical that through chance a Fortune 500 company would wind up with a truly more diverse work force than the typical ratio of a handful of black people to the throngs of white employees? The concept sounds wonderful in theory. But the reality is more evidence that racism is far more diverse than people realize.
I don’t equate dreadlocks with Mohawks or ring noses. I don’t judge a man by his hair to determine how he speaks, I listen to what he has to say. The fact that you would make such comparisons is more evidence of your contempt for your African heritage. White men with long hair are typically acceptable in the work force. Black men with long hair are not.
Peace
I struggle to see how you rationalize your frequent attacks against capitalism and corporations with your obvious disappointment that this particular firm failed to hire you on to assist them in their efforts at “exploitation”.
The FACT remains – that “dreadlocks” are not a CONSERVATIVE hairstyle even in the parlance of BLACK AMERICANS. Do you notice that Michael Vick – as he engages in his court proceedings has ditched the brains and now has a close cropped hairstyle? Black people can even distinguish between hairstyles and the messages that they bring forth.
I stand by my statement about dreads.
Please detail your evidence that “dreads” are “African heritage”?
[quote]If companies truly valued talent over everything else then would it not be logical that through chance a Fortune 500 company would wind up with a truly more diverse work force than the typical ratio of a handful of black people to the throngs of white employees?[/quote]
I never said that companies “valued talent” over everything else. It is true that companies value THE BOTTOM LINE over most other things though.
You can bank on DIVERSE WORK FORCES ONLY in the context of the consideration of the CUSTOMER into which this evil corporation is selling into. If this is a diverse customer base with the concentrated power to demand change among their vendors then chances are there will be diversity.
DIVERSITY for THE SAKE OF DIVERSITY is not likely DESPITE what YOU might hope for.
It is clear to me that you value WHAT SHOULD BE over WHAT THE REALITIES OF THE POWER RELATIONSHIPS bring forth. Rather than seeking to BUILD YOUR OWN POWER you attempt to appeal to some fundamentalist notions that you have……..all the while spitting upon the very foundations of these evil, racist corporations.
Maybe the guy who interviewed you got the feelings of your theories against corporations?
I seriously doubt if you struggle to understand anything written here.
You are a conservative. Duh! I would’ve never guessed. It is your conservative thinking that’s the problem. Racism itself is a product of conservative thinking. And you’ve internalize these thought patterns very well.
Of course you’ll stand by your statement of dreads. You confess to being part of the problem. You couldn’t recognize dreads as part of being an African American if your life depended on it. You see black people with dreadlocks and equate this with nose rings.
Diversity is not likely as long as conservative people such as yourself are working so hard to keep it from happening. America is supposed to be a land that welcomes diversity. However, if your views are a sample of mainstream American then the idea of true concepts of diversity are nothing more than empty words of rhetoric with absolutely no foundation on reality. The reality is that America welcomes diversity as much as it welcomes the West Nile virus.
The man who interviewed me was nothing more than someone who does his best to keep the status quo. Like you, the idea of a black man who is brazen enough to actually choose an appearance outside the acceptable parameters as defined by white people was simply too much for this hiring manager to accept. Because I choose to be who I am then I am rejected. It is upsetting, but I prefer to risk being rejected rather than assure myself to be assimilated into a conservative business environment. Capitalism is not the problem. It is racist, conservatives who make the conscious decision to keep black people on a tight leash of subjugation that is the problem.
The fact that this man was rejected for his appearance doesn’t even register with you. People bounce emails around referring to him as a “ghetto dude” and this blows right by you. The white people of the Toronto Star understood the problem. Government officials called Mr. Reid and apologized for the incident. But your thinking is that the problem is with the applicant who thinks he can get a job with a hairstyle that is the equivalent of a Mohawk. He needs to get a haircut if he wants a job.
You truly are a credit to conservatism in its most stagnant forms.
Peace
Constructive feedback,
What difference does it make if dreads are or aren’t part of African heritage? Also, who cares if the hairstyle is deemed to be conservative to others, the point is how many people are being unfairly judged by you and your white counterparts for such a petty matter. Remember that old adage that clothes don’t make the man, well neither does a hair style. So when is it OK for me and other blacks to start denying whites jobs etc. based on the fact that they have a perm or their hair is just a little “too” long for MY tastes? It will never be, thats when, because I don’t get to make the call as to what is an acceptable hairdo for whites.
My point is that whites nor assimilated blacks nor afrocentric blacks need to take it upon themselves to make up what is or isn’t acceptable in the arena of hairstyles. It is a personal choice and as long as it isn’t dirty or infested with bugs, it shouldn’t matter or another as long as he is qualified to do the job. Because if this is acceptable to you, then it will also become acceptable to say that only certain body types, and certain skin tones, are right for this or that job.
Where do YOU draw the line? We have to take a stand, this whole hairdo thing is just a front for the real issue, they discriminated plain and simple. They don’t go out of their way to call other whites derogatory names such as this, so why do you feel it is OK here?
Locks are a conservative hairstyle when worn in a conservative manner.
Who decides what is “conservative”? White people?
If a young man wears his locs neatly, and pulled back, his hair is considered itconservative among people who wear locs and most African-Americans.
I think some people are being dishonest here by trying to argue that this is an issue of conservatism.
This is an issue of white America thinking it should have the right to decide that what they choose to do with their hair is “acceptable” while everyone else must conform to their hair types and hairstyles.
For example, if a white woman wakes up in the morning, washes and conditions her hair, combs it, and goes to work, her hair will be considered “acceptable” by white corporate America.
If I, as a black woman with natural hair, do the same exact things with my hair, and go to work, so whites in corporate America will call my hair an “afro” although its just the way my beautiful natural hair grows. I will have white coworkers saying my hair is “not professional”.
What they are **really** saying is that the TEXTURE of my hair, the very way it grows from my scalp, is not acceptable because it does not resemble caucasian hair.
I have worn locs for almost two years now and thankfully I live in a city that is diverse. I’m sure that on a few jobs I was denied a job offer because of my hair, but for the most part, I chose not to work for or associate with anyone who still thinks the white worlds’ standard of beauty must apply in the workforce. I do my job well. That is all that matters.
It is time for the white community to make a shift. The world is made up of different people, with different hair types and thus each group will find different styles that work with THEIR OWN hair. Locks, braids, “afros” (i.e. natural black hair that is just combed out), and twists are styles that work with beautiful kinky black hair.
Some white people really need to get over their past and stop thinking they have to control everyone and force everyone to look as much like them as possible. It it insecurity? I do not know. However, it must end.
True words of African heritage wisdom. I could not agree with you more. But what’s even more sad is black people who tow the line and think other black people need to conform to what white beauty and conservative standards are.
Thanks for the comment!
Peace
I am a black woman with dreads and they are groomed and thin dreads. I wear them in a ponytail similarly to the way white women where ponytails. I look too powerful to white people and I am! I am also college degree’d and have job experience and as a black woman and single mother I am stronger than white men or white women. So they are intimidated by me and feel threatened. And educated black person is a threat because they have to acknowledge that I am far superior.
Yeah, people get rejected from jobs because of their race even when they’re best qualified. Like you said, would you want to work for such a backward company if that’s how they operate? No, so move on.
How about you praise the white people who DO employ you because you are qualified? Or maybe not best qualified but emply you because your personality would be better suited in a team?
I really hate how people see everything in terms of race and colour all the time. If you think the majority of negativity that’s aimed at you is to do with you being black then you are just as guilty of what it is that you oppose. Why do YOU have to view everything through a skin-colour filter?
“But if a black man shows up for an interview in a corporate environment with dreadlocks instead of an acceptable close cropped and neat haircut from the local Supercuts or some other generic hair salon that knows squat about African hair then he’d best forget any chance for employment.”
“I will have white coworkers saying my hair is “not professional”.
What they are **really** saying is that the TEXTURE of my hair, the very way it grows from my scalp, is not acceptable because it does not resemble caucasian hair.”
It’s these kinds of idiotic statements that will get passed on from generation to generation and play a part in sustaining the problem. You didn’t get the job. Because you’re black? Definitely possible, but who knows?. Maybe you were qualified but they didn’t like your personality? I certainly wouldn’t like to employ somebody, whoever they are, if they have the superior attitude of the poster “Black Teen Hair” (you’re as thick and as stupid as the people who feel threatened by an educated black person).
You’re never going to know the full truth of why you were never employed, so instead of looking around for clues of racism and jumping to unfounded conclusions, why don’t you take your qualifications elsewhere to a job that will appreciate you and accept that you can do their job whoever you are?
“I really would like to know how often white people go for job in person interviews and be told that the employer doesn’t know if they’re qualified for the position or not.”
Very often, actually. It happens every day. Just how much of a peace maker are you? It seems to me that you’re far more interested in stirring up trouble and generalising whilst masking it as an attempt to highlight an important issue. If highlighting issues is what you’re doing then you’re going about it in a very irresponsible way.
Thanks for the feedback humanbeing,
You asked why don’t I talk about white people who DO employ you because you are qualified? Actually, I wrote that post back in December of 2007. It was called My Drought Is Over! It was about how I was able to get a contracting job after being without a job for so many months. I also wrote another post called A Favorable Review. It was about how I was able to go from contract to perm because the people felt that I would be a good asset for the company. If you were a regular to my blog or took the time to look at a few more post you would know these things.
But instead, like most people, you write about how you hate how people who see everything in terms of race and color all the time. I hate it when people pretend that race and color are not an issue all the time. People think all we have to do is pretend that everyone if equal and racial disparity disappears like vapor.
But the more we stick our heads up our ass and tolerate racial disparity and act as if everything is okay because it happens to white people as well the more we tolerate racial discrimination. You’re one of those people who say black people struggling with higher rates of unemployment is the equivalent of the time some white man couldn’t find a job during the depression.
I think you are the idiot here. No where in this blog does anyone say every white person has a job. No where in this blog does anyone say white people never get rejected for employment. It is the manifestation of your blatant stupidity that probably got you rejected. The question is why do black people have to endure such racial discrimination that causes our unemployment numbers to be higher. I really hate how some people, such as yourself, enjoy their clueless act.
Peace
Humandummy,
Why does anyone need to praise a white person for doing what they SHOULD be doing in the first place? How does that make any sense?
So basically you would have the owner of this blog post only happy things and ignore the bad racism that happens. Is this type of behavior somehow going to make racism go away? Or is it going to just help those like you sweep it under the rug?
Because you know if we don’t “SEE” racism it doesn’t exist, right. Why didn’t you come to this blog and talk about all the happy posts that he does instead of all the ones about that terrible racism? Why aren’t you taking your own advice? Oh, that’s right, it is easier to talk the stupid talk than to walk the walk.
Get a clue, pointing out racism doesn’t make you the racist. Trying to whitewash racism is what perpetuates the situation. Exposing the stink allows us to clean it up. You can’t cover stink with perfume as the perfume makes the stink even worse.
Thanks.